tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post2317328001731631648..comments2024-03-12T03:23:42.976-04:00Comments on NeuroDojo: How students see scientific publishing, part 2Zen Faulkeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07811309183398223358noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-5942325717652059052012-09-04T10:20:52.280-04:002012-09-04T10:20:52.280-04:00I usually go over this with my undergrad class at ...I usually go over this with my undergrad class at some point during the semester. When I ask how many people are familiar with the process about a third do.Namnezianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-73604964819173009362012-09-04T10:13:20.154-04:002012-09-04T10:13:20.154-04:00CancerGeek: Regarding Wordpress, um, I don't k...CancerGeek: Regarding Wordpress, um, I don't know. I haven't heard any one else having problems with that specifically. I'll look into it / keep an eye open for it.Zen Faulkeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811309183398223358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-5975481579890127022012-09-04T09:49:54.646-04:002012-09-04T09:49:54.646-04:00Hi,
A good place to point your students is Peer re...Hi,<br />A good place to point your students is <a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org/pages/peer-review-the-nuts-and-bolts.html" rel="nofollow">Peer review: the nuts and bolts</a>, a free 26-page leaflet produced by the Voice of Young Science arm of the UK charity Sense About Science. <br />It’s written for early-career researchers, but might help your students understand more about the peer-review process and who does what.<br />Also, <a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org/resources.php/16/i-dont-know-what-to-believe" rel="nofollow">I Don't Know What to Believe: making sense of science stories</a>, which covers peer review and science research publishing in a very basic way.Irene Hameshttp://uk.linkedin.com/in/irenehamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-82014157618295124222012-09-03T21:12:57.325-04:002012-09-03T21:12:57.325-04:00I think I got it in the 1st or 2nd year of grad sc...I think I got it in the 1st or 2nd year of grad school as a result of journal club discussions (I didn't get on my 1st paper till i think it was my 3rd year). <br /><br />As a undergrad (non-science major) I didn't do a formal UG research experience, and the project I did work on, the PI handled all the publishing stuff, which was a bit unusual anyway since it went into a book chapter before being published also in a journal.<br /><br />PS is there a problem with OpenID commenting on your blog? I can't seem to use my wordpress credentials, like ever!thecancergeekhttp://thecancergeek.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-87959458632273483832012-09-03T20:26:14.828-04:002012-09-03T20:26:14.828-04:00Fascinating! I am now intrigued to ask some classe...Fascinating! I am now intrigued to ask some classes about this.<br /><br />It is also all the more confusing now that most editors have stopped performing the duty of deciding what goes into a journal. I know a few who still have the gumption to make those decisions, but most tend to defer to the reviewers. Thus, it is the reviewers who decide (at most journals) what gets published and what doesn't - the editor sets themselves up as a mere intermediary. <br /><br />Oddly, too often reviewers think their job is to be negative towards the paper, rather than to review or critique it in the broader sense.<br /><br />All very confusing. Eric Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17412168482569793996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-15949273282472664462012-09-03T20:04:44.601-04:002012-09-03T20:04:44.601-04:00In graduate school for sure.... Interesting post. ...In graduate school for sure.... Interesting post. I'm going to poll my research seminar on Thursday. I polled students in this seminar last year about authors and they all believed the first author to be the chief scientist. That was enlightening. In my field it is the last person with student or postdoctoral authors going first.Melissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-65821205647940974792012-09-03T10:12:33.225-04:002012-09-03T10:12:33.225-04:00I doubt I ever thought about it prior to submittin...I doubt I ever thought about it prior to submitting my first paper, but I figured it out pretty much for myself then. <br />Incidentally, I think your students are right. The publisher is legally responsible for what appears in the journal and therefore is the real decision-maker. Most publishers, however, delegate to an editor who makes the decisions on the publisher's behalf.<br />If legal claims are brought as a result of something that appears in the journal, it will be the publisher and/or the authors who face them, scarcely ever the editor. Likewise, an editor who makes publishing decisions the publisher doesn't like can only expect to have some explaining to do if they don't want to lose the editing gig.<br />Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00936200847318947119noreply@blogger.com