tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post3185810918499129664..comments2024-03-12T03:23:42.976-04:00Comments on NeuroDojo: The journal ecosystemZen Faulkeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07811309183398223358noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-23093391656134001662012-05-29T16:11:04.797-04:002012-05-29T16:11:04.797-04:00Saw Eisen's comments over on Scicurious on how...Saw Eisen's comments over on Scicurious on how cost to authors is irrelevant. I was surprised and a little appalled. Cost sure is relevant to me! And since I have a research grant, I'm unlikely to get a waiver from PLoS ONE, or anyone, even if I say (truthfully) that the grant is already fully committed to other expenses. I suppose you could argue that I should just reallocate my spending and set aside enough to pay PLoS ONE fees for every paper I write. But even with my modest level of productivity and modestly-sized lab in which grad students are mostly supported by other sources, that would still blow such a big hole in my budget that I'd be able to do significantly less science. Which is not a trade I'm willing to make.<br /><br />Re: the main topic of the post, I consider basically the same kinds of things you do when deciding where to send my papers.Jeremy Foxhttp://oikosjournal.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-29576817507803751142012-05-26T11:13:55.547-04:002012-05-26T11:13:55.547-04:00DM: I want to keep testing myself. I want to prove...DM: I want to keep testing myself. I want to prove to myself that I convince someone <b>new</b> that this science is worth publishing. It can get too cozy if you keep going back to the same journal, pretty much knowing you'll be able to get a paper in without too much trouble.<br /><br />A little fear of the unknown helps you keep your edge.Zen Faulkeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811309183398223358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-80102287087473057112012-05-26T11:01:42.350-04:002012-05-26T11:01:42.350-04:00Why do you spread them around?Why do you spread them around?DMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-23726656067600823882012-05-26T10:19:20.189-04:002012-05-26T10:19:20.189-04:00My strategy goes like this: I try to get the paper...My strategy goes like this: I try to get the paper in a journal which someone who sees my CV will notice. If I can't get it into any of those journals, I publish it somewhere where I know it'll get published and where I know people can access it (e.g. PLoS One). Since the journal won't get noticed anyway, any journal that fits these criteria works. As you point out, with waivers and all that, there's really no rational reason for any other strategy.<br /><br />Society journals are a special case as these are often good ways to reach a targeted audience with the relevant research. But for the 'generic' projects, my rue above applies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-1289346443086235072012-05-25T19:22:23.213-04:002012-05-25T19:22:23.213-04:00I hasn't been something that I personally cons...I hasn't been something that I personally consider in my decisions of where to submit, except as a variation of "Is it open access?"<br /><br />I don't mind short "pay per view" periods followed by open access. This seems like it could be a reasonable compromise accessibility and sustainability. But the devil is in the details. As it stands now, the asking price for papers under the "pay now or wait a few months for open access" often seems unreasonably high.Zen Faulkeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811309183398223358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3522311.post-74860925224993332742012-05-25T18:22:30.403-04:002012-05-25T18:22:30.403-04:00Zen, what do you think of the PNAS model that has ...Zen, what do you think of the PNAS model that has all papers open access after six months but has the option of a fee for immediate open access? How does that influence your decision on?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822384650419759540noreply@blogger.com